“Manchester can't sustain a quality restaurant"

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“Manchester can't sustain a quality restaurant"

Postby scottie » Wed Feb 04, 2009 1:03 pm

So says Raymond Blanc after his Brasserie Blanc shut down in the city centre, as well as Juniper which has also shut - one of the only Michelin starred restaurants in this area (before the losing after the exit of chef Paul Kitching.)
Now there's obviously sour grapes there - but is there enough really great places to eat in Manchester? I can't always afford to eat at many top end places but it's nice to go somewhere really special for an occasion.
I know there's some good ones - but a city our size surely needs more. Michael Caines at Abode is surely the best in the city now.

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Re: “Manchester can't sustain a quality restaurant"

Postby annie » Wed Feb 04, 2009 1:17 pm

Is this perhaps because "us in the north" are less inclined to pay £50 for a starter?

I've eaten in some absolutely stunning places around here. Maybe my standards are too low.

Sounds like quality bulls**t to me, which, for a chef, is hardly surprising.
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Re: “Manchester can't sustain a quality restaurant"

Postby fiz67 » Wed Feb 04, 2009 1:29 pm

spot on annie, its like the emperors new clothes i reckon, we won't put up with inflated prices or tiddley widdley platefuls of food for hundreds for pounds, i think we have a good range of restaurants in manchester without stars.
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Re: “Manchester can't sustain a quality restaurant"

Postby Stanley » Wed Feb 04, 2009 1:30 pm

TOP 5 RESTAURANTS IN MANCHESTER
as voted for by the concierges of Manchester's finest hotels.

1. Stock
2. Gaucho Grill
3. Lounge Ten
4. San Carlo
5. Grill on Alley
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Re: “Manchester can't sustain a quality restaurant"

Postby t0ria » Wed Feb 04, 2009 1:36 pm

I've eaten at Raymond Blanc's Brasserie and it was very reasonable. For the "early bird" type set menu it was less than £20 for three courses and a glass of wine. The food was very nice but nothing out of the ordinary- it certainly wasn't Michelin standards. I only went once and was not excited enough by it to go again.

The main problem with it was its location- tucked away in between a load of estate agents offices off King Street. They didn't really advertise and I don't think many people actually knew it was there....

I think if Mr Blanc wants a reason for the lack of punters he should take more of a look at the management, rather than blaming the city.

Oh and here is my opinion on what you said, Stanley:
1. Stock- amazing venue, OK food but Pauld's partridge was raw :(
2. Gaucho Grill- faaaaaaaaaar to expensive but lovely steaks- you have to pay extra for all of your sides and they're really pricey.
3. Lounge Ten- not been but the head chef recently got sent down for drugs offences so we're not bothering until they sort it out.
4. San Carlo- too much garlic, too many tables in the room, slow service
5. Grill on Alley- like Gaucho grill but not as good and a bit too posey.

You know what? We eat out too much!
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Re: “Manchester can't sustain a quality restaurant"

Postby fiz67 » Wed Feb 04, 2009 1:41 pm

didn't his restaurant go into receivership too a while back and open up again as they seemed to able to do, no doubt owing loads to suppliers. badly run then rather than bad food. think those top ten are about right for the city.

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Re: “Manchester can't sustain a quality restaurant"

Postby yoss » Wed Feb 04, 2009 1:47 pm

Annie, I'm looking really hard on their menu for a £50 starter, but the most expensive I can see is £6.95.

You couldn't possibly have been exaggerating could you?

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Re: “Manchester can't sustain a quality restaurant"

Postby Stanley » Wed Feb 04, 2009 1:49 pm

It's not what I say, toria...it's what the concierges of the city say...based on what their customers say to them and on their own experience. They change every month.
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Re: “Manchester can't sustain a quality restaurant"

Postby t0ria » Wed Feb 04, 2009 2:01 pm

Stanley wrote:It's not what I say, toria...it's what the concierges of the city say...based on what their customers say to them and on their own experience. They change every month.


yes sorry I realised that, I didn't make it clear

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Re: “Manchester can't sustain a quality restaurant"

Postby Stanley » Wed Feb 04, 2009 2:06 pm

No worries. It's quite a good insight from them really as it's the top concierges voting each month and then list is taken from their votes. They all vote for 10 and it's worked out from there.

To take the thread on a slightly different journey...

Here's my top 3 favourite restaurants in Manchester;

1) Coriander - great food and great service.
2) Pacific (the Chinese floor) - great food.
3) East z East (the smaller one) - great food.
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Re: “Manchester can't sustain a quality restaurant"

Postby digger » Wed Feb 04, 2009 2:20 pm

t0ria wrote:4. San Carlo- too much garlic, ...


Does. Not. Compute. :)

My "top Manchester restaurant" closed down about 12 years ago, sadly. Much missed. :(
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Re: “Manchester can't sustain a quality restaurant"

Postby Stanley » Wed Feb 04, 2009 2:29 pm

Right with you on the garlic, digger.

What was your favourite restaurant?
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Re: “Manchester can't sustain a quality restaurant"

Postby digger » Wed Feb 04, 2009 2:59 pm

Venezia Trattoria. There were in a basement somewhere along Mount Street. Did the best pizzaiola steak ever.
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Re: “Manchester can't sustain a quality restaurant"

Postby anthonyf » Wed Feb 04, 2009 3:06 pm

Is the Brasserie Blanc the same place as Le Petit Blanc? If it is I used to go there 8 years ago and found it in the same price bracket as other top restaurants in the area but never thought it was THAT great and I think the consensus is that there were better ones in the Manchester area - so bye bye Mr Blanc-ety Blanc!!

Lounge Ten, now there is a place, with a very interesting Maitre'D (sp?). The last time I went there was Valentines Day 2006. I had booked a table for the second sitting at 9pm and they were running late and they made everyone queue up outside in the cold and rain for 45 minutes. We were seated at 10pm and they quickly took our "order" but with the starters arriving at 11 and the main course at midnight we were not happy. They also served a paltry "dessert" and charged an arm and a leg for it. How could they get it so wrong. I have not been back.

San Carlo - why do I not knowthis place? It has an "associate" restaurant here in Roma (I'm moving to Chorlton in a couple of weeks) so I will have to check it out!!

I have always rated Wings the Chinese restaurant and Piccolinos off Albert Square.

I also used to like a place, I think it was called Fish, which is now an eye laser surgery type place. I guess Manchester couldn't sustain a fish restaurant that big.

Well just my 2c worth.

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Re: “Manchester can't sustain a quality restaurant"

Postby Stanley » Wed Feb 04, 2009 3:13 pm

You went to a restaurant on Valentine's Day? Are you certifiably insane?
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