Secondary schools -subjectively ?

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Secondary schools -subjectively ?

Postby aroundM21 » Fri Mar 30, 2012 7:42 pm

Choosing our Primary school seemed easy. Quick look at Ofstead reports, and much more consideration of their general atmosphere from visits - admittedly per-arranged so 'managed' - gave a clear view. And in Chorlton we're lucky to have several 'outstanding' Primaries to chose from.

Now secondaries is a much more significant, but also restricted and important decision.

I do not mean to criticise - this is widely regarded as more difficult by many people I know who live in many areas.

So .... What's people's honest view about local secondaries, please ??

It'sl a tough question because most parents only have in depth direct experience of ONE school. That's probably why passions and emotions may easily dominate it he subject, both positive and negative.

We're a few years ahead of the decision curve but that's how I like to make important decisions :+)

The obvious comparisons aero chorlton high ; whalley range high school for girls ; Stratford grammar ; Parrs wood.

What's your experience - and how did you decide ???

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Re: Secondary schools -subjectively ?

Postby annie » Fri Mar 30, 2012 7:53 pm

As I'm sure you have noticed, schools like to call themselves "colleges" these days, and they often specialise. Whalley Range High School for Girls has two major downsides - single sex school (endemically backward), and being an "enterprise" school.

Watch out for these fluffed-up seats of learning, and go with your gut instinct about the school, not their stats, or their pomposity.
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Re: Secondary schools -subjectively ?

Postby Phila » Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:19 pm

Cheadle?

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Re: Secondary schools -subjectively ?

Postby skywalker » Fri Mar 30, 2012 9:03 pm

i went to chorlton high, it wasn't a very good school.

in my opinion, most schools now are sh*t. its all about statistics and 'being the best of all the other schools' rather than the pupils.
i'm not quite sure where i'd be or how different i'd be and stuff if i didn't leave school when i did, but what i do know is that you can raise your child to be as angelic as you like, but if they mix with the wrong folk at school, that 11 years of hard work can be very quickly ripped apart.

i don't think i'm making much sense or a good point, i'll edit this post tomorrow when i'm better. but its good to think about the types of people and the general atmosphere at the schools and stuff.
not that any of them don't have thugs and dickheads and stuff in, but some are significantly more violent and aggressive and shit compared with others.

sorry for the rsanty type post. i'll probably regret it in he morning, lol./
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Re: Secondary schools -subjectively ?

Postby Phila » Sat Mar 31, 2012 12:05 am

At all not Luke. It is good to hear what the yoof have to say, the whole country is settling into yardstick measurements of itself instead of excelling.

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Re: Secondary schools -subjectively ?

Postby digger » Sat Mar 31, 2012 4:51 am

William Hulme? No direct personal experience as my kids were both educated in Yorkshire, but I know several people whose children attend there and they are very happy with it.

If you're a few years ahead of the decision as you say, it might not be too late to get your name down?
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Re: Secondary schools -subjectively ?

Postby Vicarious » Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:46 am

I'd have to disagree with Luke. I think Chorlton High is a really good school. We have some fantastic teachers, which is why we are one of the best schools in Manchester, results wise. (Aside from grammar schools) But the reason we get these results is because we have such good teachers in the school. Especially in the Performing Arts. I'd be so much more uninformed about music, the thing I love, if I didn't do it at Chorlton High.

There's no point denying that there are people who misbehave, and go to school to piss about rather than to learn, but you get that at any school. But if your child works hard and enjoys school, I see no reasons why he/she would be in classes with those kinds of people.

You've been to high school yourself, you know what it's like. You also seem like an intelligent person from what I can gather, so I imagine you have brought up your child with the right morals and whatnot.

Also, a problem with William Hulme seems to be that in History, they teach things such as terrorism rather than things which are more nessacary to know, such as The Rise of Hitler. I had a friend go GCSE History at William Hulme, and when he went on to do A Level History, there was so much that he didn't know because that subject wasn't even on the school curriculum so they hadn't covered it. That's just something you should take in to considertation about William Hulme.

Anyway, I can't really make your decision for you, nor can I for your child, but I'd say Chorlton High is the best option. Especially if she's really in to Music, Art, Drama, or Dance. I promise it's just not a title to make the school look good. As when I did those subjects in another school I went to for a few months, the arts subjects were piss poor.

Hope this is of some help, somehow.

Oh, and a point on Whalley Range, they're really strict with uniform. Like, a friend of mine dyed her hair red, it wasn't even like, a bright, ridiculous colour. But I don't see why it would be a big deal if it was anyway. Anyway, they asked her to change it, and she refused. She ended up in the exclusion room for two weeks and missed her work experience, then told to stay at home until she changed it. Eventually, she gave in and just did it but it shouldn't really get to that point. Anyway, as my friend puts it ''Whalley range are Communist assholes who don't let anyone in the school be individual.''

This post seems stupid to me, and annoyingly long, but I guess it's somewhast useful since I'm giving you my experience with some schools.

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Re: Secondary schools -subjectively ?

Postby bufty1 » Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:06 am

I have heard Chorlton High is pretty crap in the latest ofsted report. Rumours are its also pretty rough? I would suggest william hulme grammer. Until two years ago it was a fee paying independent school but changed to a non paying school a year or so ago. Still here its one of the best schools in manchester and within the chorlton / whalley range limits. Not sure if there is a entrance exam.. Trafford is pretty lucky with all those grammar schools - hopefully the tory's will bring these back...

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Re: Secondary schools -subjectively ?

Postby skywalker » Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:56 am

i don't think schools should be able to make people change their appearance.
uniforms are fair enough but hair colour and stuff, no. because a school making someone change their hair colour effects them when they are out of school.
good on your friend for standing up to them. i probably would of ended up expelled because i wouldn't back down over something as stupid as that.

i just typed a very long rant but deleted it to save you the time of reading it.
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Re: Secondary schools -subjectively ?

Postby Rob » Mon Apr 02, 2012 8:40 am

Secondary school choice can be a complete nightmare for all sorts of reasons, especially when people get all political and arsey when it comes to making a choice other than your local comprehensive.

There's going to be pluses and minuses whatever choice you make. Chorlton High is pretty much your regular local comp with everyone that's good and bad about that. I certainly wouldn't go trying to get into somewhere like Parrs Wood as an alternative - 1) you'll never get in without moving house, and 2) it's no better than Chorlton High anyway. You might want to follow the current academy debate though.

As for William Hulme, it's not an easy school to get into as it's hugely over-subscribed and the entrance criteria are quite strange (to ensure diversity I think). But worth a try.

If you're thinking of a Trafford grammar school than you may as well accept that you have to do a lot of home tutoring, or pay for a tutor (sorry, it's what everyone does) otherwise your child has little chance of making the grade as the entrance exams go a level above standard SATS and it's all very competitive.

I don;t know anything about Whalley Range High School as we have all-boys.

Have also heard some people opting for Trinity in Hulme, but again I doubt it's much better than Chorlton High.

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Re: Secondary schools -subjectively ?

Postby ladyheather » Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:15 pm

Does anyone have any more views to add to this thread, preferably based on recent experience? Based on just reading around, I am surmising as follows:

William Hulme - impossible to get into unless you live within 600m
Chorlton High - rough, lots of art loving parents sending their kids there
Stretford - good but need to have tuition to get in
Parrs Wood - out of catchment
Whalley Range HSfG - no views
Trinity - no views

Does anyone know of Chorlton kids getting into Altrincham grammars, or are they too far? Any experiences regarding Withington for girls, MCR High and MCR boys schools?

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Re: Secondary schools -subjectively ?

Postby CharlieB » Thu Feb 27, 2014 12:44 pm

Rather than get into the pros and cons of other schools, i'll just give you a nice, simple and straightforward view of Chorlton High.

I've got four kids; the two youngest are at Oswald Road and the two eldest at Chorlton High, one in Year 10 and the other in Year 8.

In the four years that my eldest lad has been there, i've had no cause for any complaint whatsoever.

Knowing that he was a hard worker but had been schooled in the 'Chorlton Bubble' of Oswald Road, I simply wanted to know the answer to the question,

"If my lad wants to learn, will he be actively prevented from doing so by rowdier or more badly behaved pupils?"

He's been fine, has a good set of mates and is predicted to get really good results. He loves the place.

My Year 8 is good academically, but has much more interest in the world of music. He has a great time at the school. The biggest feature of the music room at my secondary (St Pius in Rusholme) was the bloody great padlock that kept us well away from all that valuable equipment. My lad and his mates have been trusted since Year 7, to stay behind and practice. They've responded to that trust with an absolute respect for the kit.

Chorlton High is a culturally representative microcosm of Manchester itself, something I also consider important. My kids learn to rub along together with kids from all sorts of different backgrounds.

My daughter will hopefully be going in September (find out on March 1st).

I heartily endorse Vicarious' comments.

Best of luck choosing.

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Re: Secondary schools -subjectively ?

Postby Sarah_B » Thu Feb 27, 2014 1:17 pm

CharlieB wrote:
Knowing that he was a hard worker but had been schooled in the 'Chorlton Bubble' of Oswald Road, I simply wanted to know the answer to the question,



What does the 'Chorlton Bubble' of Oswald Road mean?

There is also St John's Roman Catholic school just nearby to Oswald Road too.

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Re: Secondary schools -subjectively ?

Postby gitface » Thu Feb 27, 2014 1:20 pm

You've not been near Oswald Road school at kicking out time then? :o

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Re: Secondary schools -subjectively ?

Postby Sarah_B » Thu Feb 27, 2014 1:27 pm

Yes I have actually .... fair enough the children don't wear hats (if that's what you mean?)

Just look like a diverse group of school children to me.... however nothing out of the ordinary.


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