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Postby Phila » Fri Jan 24, 2014 11:41 am

This morning, around 9.00hrs I had a delivery of TNT post from TNT. Later I had a delivery of TNT post from Royal Mail. Does this make any sense to anyone?

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Postby ladyheather » Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:29 pm

Yes, TNT processes and delivers post from businesses that they have won contracts for, and in turn subcontracts Royal Mail to deliver those business mail items that are less 'economically attractive' to deliver. Royal Mail is obliged to do so. Or something like that, according to my postman.

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Postby Phila » Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:47 pm

So utter bobbins like so much privatisation.

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Postby Reeves » Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:03 pm

TNT have won the rights to deliver right up to the door in several UK cities including Manchester, rather than just to the nearest Royal Mail delivery office.

The downside of this is, currently they only deliver door to door twice a week and so some post can be delayed ie they only have TNT postmen in the area twice a week.

I work for a company that uses TNT to deliver to the nearest Royal Mail delivery office and we tested the full TNT door to door service but our urgent documents were being delayed at the TNT sorting office for upto 3 working days, so we have reverted back to TNT delivering to the nearest Royal Mail delivery office and letting Royal Mail deliver that day. This is why you see TNT branded post being delivered by Royal Mail.

Madness really!

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Postby Phila » Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:07 pm

Thanks Reeves. That explains it, and supports my opinion.

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Postby TossPot » Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:41 pm

Phila wrote:So utter bobbins like so much privatisation.


Yes, it was so much better when we were forced to use the state monopoly provider. I particularly like the way they preserved their 19th Century opening hours into the 21st Century. Then there's their excellent service where they just shove a card through your door, and then run off taking your parcel back to some little piece of the Soviet Union, where if you're lucky you can go and stand in a long, rainy queue early on a Saturday morning to get it back again.

I hate the fact that I can now post a packet, more cheaply, at 10.00pm in the local corner shop. It really pisses me off that it costs me less to send things. Oh, and privatisation forcing Royal Mail to invest in better processes and technology can only be a bad thing. If something was good enough in 1970 it's good enough for us now.

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Postby annie » Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:02 pm

TossPot wrote:
Phila wrote:So utter bobbins like so much privatisation.


Yes, it was so much better when we were forced to use the state monopoly provider. I particularly like the way they preserved their 19th Century opening hours into the 21st Century. Then there's their excellent service where they just shove a card through your door, and then run off taking your parcel back to some little piece of the Soviet Union, where if you're lucky you can go and stand in a long, rainy queue early on a Saturday morning to get it back again.

I hate the fact that I can now post a packet, more cheaply, at 10.00pm in the local corner shop. It really pisses me off that it costs me less to send things. Oh, and privatisation forcing Royal Mail to invest in better processes and technology can only be a bad thing. If something was good enough in 1970 it's good enough for us now.

As you say, utter bobbins



Ahh the skewed mantra of the asset-stripping, public-property-thieving Tory in full effect once more. The smell of bullsh1t in here is really quite overpowering.

Privatisation is theft.
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Postby Phila » Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:11 pm

Tosspot. Take it you've never experienced Yodel then.

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Postby blenkinsop » Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:28 pm

TNT's service is slower than Royal Mail, but they are significantly cheaper, that's why they have a successful business, with plenty of customers. When people see a deal, they vote with their feet. Even the unwashed left, (constantly spoiling for a fight, they lost years ago), should be able to see that.

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Postby Stanley » Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:28 pm

Sometimes, it's hard to work out why people vote Tory.

Then you see what they think and realise it's just because they are wrong. Obviously, it's less black and white than that but they don't really do grey areas very well so just speaking their language so they can understand without their trademark kneejerk anger.

It's not their fault either so go easy on them.

"People with liberal views tended to have increased grey matter in the anterior cingulated cortex, a region of the brain linked to decision-making, in particular when conflicting information is being presented. Previous research showed that electrical potentials recorded from this region during a task that involves responding to conflicting information were bigger in people who were more liberal or left wing than people who were more conservative.

Conservatives, meanwhile, found increased grey matter in the amygdala, an area of the brain associated with processing emotion. This difference is consistent with studies which show that people who consider themselves to be conservative respond to threatening situations with more aggression than do liberals and are more sensitive to threatening facial expressions."

http://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/news-articles/1012/10122301
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Postby blenkinsop » Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:07 pm

I believe a dose of Imodium may help alleviate your condition.

:idea:

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Postby Reeves » Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:53 pm

blenkinsop wrote:TNT's service is slower than Royal Mail, but they are significantly cheaper, that's why they have a successful business, with plenty of customers. When people see a deal, they vote with their feet. Even the unwashed left, (constantly spoiling for a fight, they lost years ago), should be able to see that.


Yes I agree its cheaper but the service is not as good/quick/reliable. So business's like mine have a choice now (which I believe is a good thing). The choice is either pay less and leave the delivery date to be when TNT are next in the area or pay more knowing Royal Mail will finish the job on the day you expect your delivery to be delivered.

It's like the difference between British Airways and Ryanair.... Fly to where you think you are going or 100 miles outside and get a bus to where you thought you were going (at an additional cost).

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Postby annie » Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:48 pm

Reeves wrote:
blenkinsop wrote:TNT's service is slower than Royal Mail, but they are significantly cheaper, that's why they have a successful business, with plenty of customers. When people see a deal, they vote with their feet. Even the unwashed left, (constantly spoiling for a fight, they lost years ago), should be able to see that.


Yes I agree its cheaper but the service is not as good/quick/reliable. So business's like mine have a choice now (which I believe is a good thing). The choice is either pay less and leave the delivery date to be when TNT are next in the area or pay more knowing Royal Mail will finish the job on the day you expect your delivery to be delivered.

It's like the difference between British Airways and Ryanair.... Fly to where you think you are going or 100 miles outside and get a bus to where you thought you were going (at an additional cost).



Ah yes but you have CHOICE!!.... A rock and a hard place... a choice between different shades of sh1t... but CHOICE nonetheless... and that's what the Tories LOVE.

But with the added kicker of knowing that a chunk of your fee goes directly into the pockets of people who have contributed NOTHING to a company other than their fat wallets... and if they don't get enough, they'll downsize/sack people/asset strip the company.

No longer a public service, but a profit-centred company. Lovely.
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Postby blenkinsop » Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:21 pm

Pleased to receive a letter today delivered by TNT, confirming an appointment with those well known 'asset stripping, public property thieving', and general robbers of the poor - the NHS. I don't mean that of course.

Made the appointment Thursday, letter arrived Saturday, seems pretty efficient to me. The NHS are probably saving 20% on their massive postage costs, by using TNT. Lovely. :roll:

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Postby annie » Sat Jan 25, 2014 7:30 pm

blenkinsop wrote:Pleased to receive a letter today delivered by TNT, confirming an appointment with those well known 'asset stripping, public property thieving', and general robbers of the poor - the NHS. I don't mean that of course.

Made the appointment Thursday, letter arrived Saturday, seems pretty efficient to me. The NHS are probably saving 20% on their massive postage costs, by using TNT. Lovely. :roll:


Slagging off "NHS wastage"? There's a good Tory. Without socialism you never would have HAD an NHS to grumble about.

Really, really pathetic. Must do better.
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